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[Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 09 May 2014, 12:48
by Elodie
A young team composed of ex-students from Gobelins are using a French crowd funding "Touscoprod" to raise funds for a short film.
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Don't hesitate to help them
Re: [Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 09 May 2014, 14:39
by Paul Fierlinger
Say what?! Raising money for a fake TV commercial? Tell me this ain't true...
Re: [Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 13 May 2014, 00:22
by schwarzgrau
I guess I don't get it either.
Re: [Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 13 May 2014, 01:00
by Paul Fierlinger
What I see as fishy, is that one guy is a producer and the other is an assistant director and the pair are raising money to hire a talented designer, director, animators with all their inherent assistants and colorists to make a fake, very, very short film, which they already call a team of fresh graduates. If this team is for real, the last people they need to make a fake TV spot, is a producer and assistant director.
And here's another thing that bugs me: if the team is for real, the school has failed them in a big way, if all they can come up with for their first film is a fake candy commercial. This school needs to hire someone to teach students the importance of making films that are useful to the largest possible group of people.
Re: [Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 13 May 2014, 06:01
by Elodie
Paul, you are judging these 2 artists without knowing anything from them.
Jeremy Macedo and Franck Monier are not new comers in the animation industry. They both graduated 3 / 4 years ago. This advertising is not their first professional work, they already both worked on or directed short films (Jeremy Macedo directed "
Polypous", for example)
Plus, they both know well NKI (previously called Akama) : they worked several time for them, on different projects (Polypous, but also "
Tiji - Colours").
According to Jeremy, this fake commercial is about overconsumption. Too bad they did not explain it in their video or Pitch.
Re: [Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 13 May 2014, 07:52
by Paul Fierlinger
Paul, you are judging these 2 artists without knowing anything from them.
On the contrary Elodie. I am judging their presentation firstly by what I know
from you:
A young team composed of ex-students from Gobelins are using a French crowd funding "Touscoprod" to raise funds for a short film.
and from what I have learned directly from them. What I don't know is anything
about them which has nothing to do with my character, judgmental or benign. This is the information they have given me, combined with the information I have received from you.
According to Jeremy, this fake commercial is about overconsumption. Too bad they did not explain it in their video or Pitch.
Exactly! Consider my posts a well done job of a seasoned beta tester, here to merely judge their pitch. They have much to learn about self promotion and I am offering them this lesson selflessly, going out on a limb for them, the two characters about whom I know absolutely nothing
but should know more.
Re: [Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 13 May 2014, 08:04
by Elodie
Paul Fierlinger wrote:On the contrary Elodie. I am judging their presentation firstly by what I know from you:
Elodier wrote:A young team composed of ex-students from Gobelins
Paul Fierlinger wrote:which they already call a team of fresh graduates.
Did I say they just freshly graduated ?
(But ok, for a seventy-years old, 3 or 4 years after school, it's fresh !
)
if all they can come up with for their first film is a fake candy commercial
I didn't say it was their first film, you
supposed it :]
Re: [Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 13 May 2014, 08:39
by Paul Fierlinger
I didn't say it was their first film, you supposed it :]
That's right. Anything I have to say within this thread is not a reflection of my opinion, only my impressions as a reflection of the nature of the information given me. You haven't even remarked on my impressions of the school of which I also know nothing. To reach for hype as a first tool of advertising is too easy but also somewhat dangerous (or at least tricky) business. BTW I'll break my own rule and actually offer a sample of my opinion: I don't like kickstarters.
Re: [Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 13 May 2014, 08:43
by Elodie
You haven't even remarked on my impressions of the school of which I also know nothing.
I have, but as I don't know the school "as a student" and what kind of lesson they have, I haven't said anything (you could be right after all
)
Paul Fierlinger wrote: I don't like kickstarters.
I agree with you concerning this point
But if it may help someone, I don't mind to share links, at least.
Re: [Kickstarter] Boko Anana
Posted: 13 May 2014, 09:16
by schwarzgrau
As someone who doesn't know these guys and only knows what you have written and what they told us in the video, I got the same impression as Paul. I guess it's too late to change something about it, but it would be helpful to know it's a short film about overconsumption and not some fake commercial to attract the attention of potential clients.