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Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 19:21
by dotun.o
Hi Forum Members,

Is it possible to "lift" a frame and move it around to check drawing (with previous frames), and then "snap" it back to original position? I don't mean translate (which is a permanent change); but, like traditional paper animation, to lift a sheet off the pegbar, compare size/shape of drawing (e.g. head shape) with previous frame, make adjustments, then place back onto pegbar.

I'm still fairly new to the program, so my apologies if this is an obvious feature.

Thanks.

Re: Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 19:25
by slowtiger
If it's within the range of the light table, use the "off the pegs" functionality.
Alternatively just cmd-C the frame, create new layer, cmd-V, and shift this around.

Re: Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 19:36
by Peter Wassink
when using the lightable in bookmark mode, all frames of a layer will be potentially in range.

first bookmark the frame you wish to "lift" (CTRL-SHIFT- up arrow),
now on your actual frame the lightable will show you it and using the Offpegs function (the bottom row of buttons in the Lighttable) you can scale and rotate acording to your wish.
and this only affexts the lightable image and not the frame itself

Re: Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 20:03
by dotun.o
Thanks so much, everyone! (stunned at quick responses!) This really makes the program so much more flexible for me.

On a related note, it still stuns me how this incredible program is not popular enough in the industry (even my traditional animation professor was not quite familiar with it). I know that the developers don't spend money advertising, but word-of-mouth within the industry should make it much more popular. It should be to paperless raster animation what Maya and Toonboom are to CG and vector animation respectively.

Re: Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 23:09
by Paul Fierlinger
word-of-mouth within the industry should make it much more popular. It should be to paperless raster animation what Maya and Toonboom are to CG and vector animation respectively.
What industry?

Re: Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 04:45
by dotun.o
Paul Fierlinger wrote:
word-of-mouth within the industry should make it much more popular. It should be to paperless raster animation what Maya and Toonboom are to CG and vector animation respectively.
What industry?
I mean the Animation industry.

Re: Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 07:35
by Peter Wassink
dotun.o wrote:Thanks so much, everyone! (stunned at quick responses!) This really makes the program so much more flexible for me.

On a related note, it still stuns me how this incredible program is not popular enough in the industry (even my traditional animation professor was not quite familiar with it). I know that the developers don't spend money advertising, but word-of-mouth within the industry should make it much more popular. It should be to paperless raster animation what Maya and Toonboom are to CG and vector animation respectively.
In Europe the growth of TVPaints popularity as the go to 2D tool, is really picking up speed, with many of the major animation schools choosing it as their main 2d tool.
and because of the high profile of some of these, notably Gobelin, i expect(hope!) this trend will spread world wide.

Up until very recently, only a couple of years ago, i had to explain my first year animation students what tvpaint was and introduce them to it, but now these same students have often already worked with it before applying to the school.

Re: Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 09:34
by Paul Fierlinger
There is no animation industry anymore. It's all freelancers and far dispersed pockets of fly-by-night small studios that hire animators by the gig, never to make a comeback because the indie feature film has no place to go. For this new brave world, TVPaint fits in the best because it is adaptable to all styles and work flows and venues. My eye is on the Internet.

Re: Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 15:03
by dotun.o
Peter Wassink wrote:
dotun.o wrote:Thanks so much, everyone! (stunned at quick responses!) This really makes the program so much more flexible for me.

On a related note, it still stuns me how this incredible program is not popular enough in the industry (even my traditional animation professor was not quite familiar with it). I know that the developers don't spend money advertising, but word-of-mouth within the industry should make it much more popular. It should be to paperless raster animation what Maya and Toonboom are to CG and vector animation respectively.
In Europe the growth of TVPaints popularity as the go to 2D tool, is really picking up speed, with many of the major animation schools choosing it as their main 2d tool.
and because of the high profile of some of these, notably Gobelin, i expect(hope!) this trend will spread world wide.

Up until very recently, only a couple of years ago, i had to explain my first year animation students what tvpaint was and introduce them to it, but now these same students have often already worked with it before applying to the school.
I can't say I'm surprised it is bigger over there than here in the US, especially because the better part of animation here is CG & vector.
Paul Fierlinger wrote:There is no animation industry anymore. It's all freelancers and far dispersed pockets of fly-by-night small studios that hire animators by the gig, never to make a comeback because the indie feature film has no place to go. For this new brave world, TVPaint fits in the best because it is adaptable to all styles and work flows and venues. My eye is on the Internet.
Paul, the shape of the industry is definitely different, but I think in some form it still exists. Afterall, there is a reason Maya & Toonboom as mentioned are respective standards. But you are right: TVPaint is perhaps more relevant than ever as an affordable pipeline-in-a-box. I also echo your view on the Internet - services like YouTube paid channels could in the future allow small, independent efforts to deliver their work directly to the public and bypass the need for multi-million dollar financiers.

Re: Moving & resetting frames

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 15:13
by Paul Fierlinger
I'm glad you see the potential of the Internet too and it's a wide open venue to generate sustainable income for anyone with a good idea. By the way, if you listen to the chatter around animation festivals, animation blogs and any art school in the US that has an animation course, I doubt you will find anyone who has never heard of TVP. The popularity of this software has skyrocketed in the last year or two.