Select multiple layers with Cmd click

Lukas · Post by **Lukas** » 11 Jul 2013, 08:56

In OS X you can select multiple files with CMD click, and select a row of files with SHIFT.

It would be nice if it worked the same way with selecting layers in TVPaint. SHIFT works for selecting a row, but CMD click doesn't do anything.

(Any other software with layers I've worked with works like this too. TVPaint always seems to be the odd one out, doing things differently)

Post by **Thierry** » 11 Jul 2013, 09:07

TVPaint always seems to be the odd one out, doing things differently

That's why we are the best

Mads Juul · Post by **Mads Juul** » 11 Jul 2013, 09:18

Lukas wrote:In OS X you can select multiple files with CMD click, and select a row of files with SHIFT.

the selecting of layers works like this in TVPaint on Windows. So is it a OS X bug?
-mads

Lukas · Post by **Lukas** » 11 Jul 2013, 09:41

madsjuul wrote:the selecting of layers works like this in TVPaint on Windows. So is it a OS X bug?
-mads

Aaaah, I guess TVPaint is still a Windows application after all these years. I just tried and CTRL works on OS X too... Thanks!

TVPaint seriously should NOT use CTRL like this on OS X systems. It's never used for these kinds of purposes, that's whats CMD is for. OS X is NOT windows......

Thierry wrote:
TVPaint always seems to be the odd one out, doing things differently
That's why we are the best

...Seriously? That's a horrible attitude.

"Standardization or standardisation is the process of developing and implementing technical standards. The goals of right standardization can be to help with independence of single suppliers (commoditization), compatibility, interoperability, safety, repeatability, or quality."

Joost · Post by **Joost** » 11 Jul 2013, 09:52

TVPaint seriously should NOT use CTRL like this on OS X systems.

+1 !!!

Fabrice · Post by **Fabrice** » 11 Jul 2013, 10:44

Aaaah, I guess TVPaint is still a Windows application after all these years. I just tried and CTRL works on OS X too... Thanks!

100% wrong ...
TVPaint comes from AMIGA, the best computer ever

Fabrice · Post by **Fabrice** » 11 Jul 2013, 10:47

...Seriously? That's a horrible attitude.

"Standardization or standardisation is the process of developing and implementing technical standards. The goals of right standardization can be to help with independence of single suppliers (commoditization), compatibility, interoperability, safety, repeatability, or quality."

Lukasillity ?

(this is a "word game" joke as we use to say in France, but ok, I leave the topic

)

Mads Juul · Post by **Mads Juul** » 11 Jul 2013, 11:18

Lukas wrote:
"Standardization or standardisation is the process of developing and implementing technical standards. The goals of right standardization can be to help with independence of single suppliers (commoditization), compatibility, interoperability, safety, repeatability, or quality."

I think Apple should change Cmd to Ctrl

Lukas · Post by **Lukas** » 11 Jul 2013, 11:24

madsjuul wrote:
Lukas wrote:
"Standardization or standardisation is the process of developing and implementing technical standards. The goals of right standardization can be to help with independence of single suppliers (commoditization), compatibility, interoperability, safety, repeatability, or quality."
I think Apple should change Cmd to Ctrl

That would be fine aswell, but only if also every other application would too! (Photoshop, Anime Studio, etc)

I really don't care, as long as things just work the same way, I don't want to learn everything all over again for every single piece of software for doing exactly the same things.

Mads Juul · Post by **Mads Juul** » 11 Jul 2013, 12:03

More seriously I think being able to use Command(cmd) as Ctrl On OS X is a fair feature request.

I have Worked on Macintosh some years ago for a short time and I remember this annoyed me. that I had to use CMD in the OS but CTRL in TVPaint.

But strangely enough I just searched through the Feature request section and there dont seem to be a feature request yet for any Apple users?Havr no one have file this request yet? Maybe you could s change the titel of this request to something like. "Option for Using the Command Key(cmd) as Control Key(ctrl) on OS X" or making a new request, because this is in fact the request. or?
-mads

Lukas · Post by **Lukas** » 11 Jul 2013, 13:56

madsjuul wrote:More seriously I think being able to use Command(cmd) as Ctrl On OS X is a fair feature request.

I have Worked on Macintosh some years ago for a short time and I remember this annoyed me. that I had to use CMD in the OS but CTRL in TVPaint.

But strangely enough I just searched through the Feature request section and there dont seem to be a feature request yet for any Apple users?Havr no one have file this request yet? Maybe you could s change the titel of this request to something like. "Option for Using the Command Key(cmd) as Control Key(ctrl) on OS X" or making a new request, because this is in fact the request. or?
-mads

Hmm. I think you're right.

I'm just wondering if there's anything in TVPaint under CTRL that should stay under CTRL?
So far I can't think of any.

I once even imported my TVPaint shortcuts from mac to pc. (actually I had my preferences automatically saved+loaded from a dropbox folder so I would always have my latest shortcuts/brushes).
But I couldn't even save (CMD+S), because that was my save shortcut on my Mac, and my windows laptop didn't have a CMD key... A lot of my shortcuts didn't work anymore.

So my question to the developers:

Would it be possible to just have CMD in OS X act like CTRL does on windows?

Please consider Mac users are not used to Windows shortcuts.

Joost · Post by **Joost** » 11 Jul 2013, 14:24

Would it be possible to just have CMD in OS X act like CTRL does on windows?

If that is possible, it would be the best solution in my opinion!

Fabrice · Post by **Fabrice** » 11 Jul 2013, 16:52

I'm just wondering if there's anything in TVPaint under CTRL that should stay under CTRL?

Most of our users wants to keep the same shortcuts on all platforms.

Please consider Mac users are not used to Windows shortcuts.

the biggest part of our dev team is working on Mac ... (many because of so much troubles with Apple dev policy

)
There no concept of better OS for us ... we have seen so many : Amiga, Dec, Sun, Casabalnca, Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, ...

idragosani · Post by **idragosani** » 11 Jul 2013, 17:41

Lukas wrote: TVPaint seriously should NOT use CTRL like this on OS X systems. It's never used for these kinds of purposes, that's whats CMD is for. OS X is NOT windows......

One could make the case that, as usual, OS X is the odd one out and doing things differently, as Windows and Linux both use CTRL.

Joost · Post by **Joost** » 12 Jul 2013, 10:02

Take a look at the example of lukas: it's impossible to export the keyboard shortcuts from os x to windows, because the cmd button is not the same as the windows ctrl button.
It could really be helpful in a studio where people working on linux, windows and os x systems to be able to export your keyboard shortcuts and import them on the other systems. But now this is not possible because of the cmd/ctrl problem...

so please change it... I wouldn't mind to make new keyboard shortcuts all over again, if this thing is fixed (like ALL other software I use on my mac)

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