Things that tvpaint should be reformed(*add image)

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haneuri
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Things that tvpaint should be reformed(*add image)

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*sorry for my fool english
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tvpaint is really good bitmap based animaition software


It have many powerful function for animaiton

but it doesn't have really necessary funtion and interface is uncomfortable compare with other program

As you know, Making animation require much time and many workforce

so ,especially animation software should be efficient

Developer should consider such a point. not adding new function




now l'm going to say what should reform

if programer reform this point, work efficiency will rise


for a frequent update of tvp, please upvote this thread. and we should talk more about our feedbacks on the forum so the devs can know what we want



[what should be reformed ]
1.please make easer button or allow 'your brushes' to bind sortcut key
Spoiler : :
Image



I can change easer by clicking right mouse botton but I resize brush size again

I'm surprise developer didn't change yet. if they made animation using tvp only once, they will know that it uncofortable

I use what change airbrush to easer unavoidably

If I want to use airbrush, I will change it again


It is really uncomfortable I think many people agree this point




2.set shortcut key
Spoiler : :
shortcut is really important part that workspeed be rose


but tvp don't assign function use frequently to key


It can adjust key myself but It is really inconvenient and beginner just use tvp because they didn't know how to change a shortcut


please set function use "frequently" to shortcut key

[function use frequently:brushs in main panel,instantce and exposure add/delete, etc...)]
3.please change edit function

Spoiler : :
Editting function of tvp is really really really bad seriously

everything is stamped. so, I can't edit image in real time

I think that performance of computer is enough to process this work in 2010's


moreover, tvpaint 10 is 64bit

today, we don't need function like a keyframer of TVP that image is stamped on canvas

and TVP should have a funtion such a compositon in AfterEffect or symbol in Flash

Develpers have to refer aftereffect for make good funtion


I(we) need to panel such a project panel in Aftereffect

I(we) want to import project and clip(compositon) and want to edit in real time (not stamping)

I(we) want to modify project or clip on canvas by clicking it during editting


It is really necessary funtion. and It is basics
4. I can't move multiple instantces at the same time

Spoiler : :
Actually.. this function is added in TVP10 but it allows only one layer

I want to select instantce beyond layer

Image

It is not "all select layer"




It allows me to adjust the timing easily
5.want to play from the current frame.
It is added in tvp10



6.where is the anchorpoint ???

it is a really fundamental function.. why isn't it available already?





7 .I can't copy/cut/paste using the select tool
Spoiler : :
Image


even MsPaint can do that.

I would not like to use a brush capture tool

and I want to paste it to other instances

8. I would love to listen to the sound of project while working on the clip
It is so hard to adjust timing without listening to the audio.

↑I got it :oops:




9.resize canvas size of the clip 'individually'!

Spoiler : :
If the camera size ratio is locked and fixed, the size of the canvas does not matter.



so I can use the canvas freely, as if I made an animation using a various size of papers


I mean that I want to draw outside of canvas in order that imange don't be cut when I move a camera
Image
Image
Image

Image
Image

10.interface is not user friendly(It is controversial)
Spoiler : :
Since many 2d graphic softwares are developed based on adobe's productions, it allows users to take less time in familiarizing with them.


Whereas tvp's interface is not as familiar to users, including myself, that got used to adobe softwares.

I think TVP needs some benchmarking (from AfterEffect,Flash,toonboom animate, etc.)

to avoid confusion, It'd be nice if there was two versions of TVP each with old/new control preferences.



[new function suggestion]


1.I hope I could bind a shortcut key to the flipbook botton of shapen palm. It'll make previewing the work much clearer.
Spoiler : :
Image
Image


2.I hope TVP files can be compatible with .ape format.(affter effect)


3.the blank instance needs to be white (I don't say about thumbnail of instance)
opacity of instance decrease
Spoiler : :
[like this]
Image

4.proposing function
Spoiler : :
ctrl + mouse wheel: addition of exposure at the desired point


alt + mouse wheel: change of instance location within exposure


ctrl + Left mouse botton: create instance at the desired point




5. function that allows users to view enlarged thumbnail of the frame when a cursor is on it. thumbnails are not big enough.



7. a simple timeline interface similar to flash or toonboom.
Spoiler : :
Image
Image
9. coloring function of retas studio, a software which has a very powerful digital coloring feature.]
Spoiler : :
http://youtu.be/ZdKhd8alxJw?t=1m
traceman function description

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUk_SKJ4gc4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
paintman function description


1.non-antialiase the lines of the scanned images, or create an invisible graytrace upon the image,
shading line are drawn with 255 primary colors


2.color at the paintman


3.
antialiasing at the aftereffect

10.function that reducing layer opacity except selected layer
Spoiler : :
Image

i hope my opinions were well delivered. my impression on tvp is that it didn't really concern user's convenience.

new functions are good, but the basic userfriendly interface is more important.

though I thank you for making an awesome bit-map based animation software.

I wish you tremendous success!
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Hmmm, impressive first post.
But who are you ? Please can you describe yourself haneuri ?
Where are you working ? which country, which studio ?
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Fabrice » sure.
my name is Lee Ha Neul. I am korean and I am college student. my major is animation

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I can't delete this reply :cry:
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Fabrice wrote:Hmmm, impressive first post.
But who are you ? Please can you describe yourself haneuri ?
Where are you working ? which country, which studio ?
sure.
My name is Lee Ha Neul. I am korean and I am college student. my major is animation
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Hi Hanueri
Welcome to the User Forum.
My Name Is Mads Im a Tvpaint user my self
There is a lot of good things in Your Post. But to make it easier for other users(And the TVpaint development team) to help you out I think you should make one topic pr. question. And post your question in the "English Community Forum"
it is better than the "Feature request" Forum because maybe it is possible to do what your asking for some way or another in TVPaint already.
For instance it is possible to import a "tvp" file in a "tvpp" project

If after the discussion you find out that such a feature is not implemented in TVPaint. you can post it in the Feature request.
Just my thought after reading through your long list.
Again welcome!
Kind Regards
Mads Juul
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Highlight beyond one layer would be EXTREMELY helpful, agreed +100

Also, drawing beyond the canvas would also be extremely convenient for moving larger images around, much like flash. There is the issue of the canvas being blocked, but maybe the gray outside of the canvas can be lightly faded over what you draw.
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madsjuul wrote:Hi Hanueri
Welcome to the User Forum.
My Name Is Mads Im a Tvpaint user my self
There is a lot of good things in Your Post. But to make it easier for other users(And the TVpaint development team) to help you out I think you should make one topic pr. question. And post your question in the "English Community Forum"
it is better than the "Feature request" Forum because maybe it is possible to do what your asking for some way or another in TVPaint already.
For instance it is possible to import a "tvp" file in a "tvpp" project

If after the discussion you find out that such a feature is not implemented in TVPaint. you can post it in the Feature request.
Just my thought after reading through your long list.
Again welcome!
Kind Regards
Mads Juul

thank for advice
I'll post feature so that next time
and Is it possible to import a "tvp" file in a "tvpp" project???
It is just example?
I cant't import tvp in a tvp
cilp is opend as new project
and it disappear 'export clip' in tvp 10
where is it? :cry:
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Are you using Tv paint Pro or not pro?
But you can always select layers and copy/paste between 2 open projects
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haneuri wrote: and it disappear 'export clip' in tvp 10
where is it? :cry:
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madsjuul wrote:Are you using Tv paint Pro or not pro?
But you can always select layers and copy/paste between 2 open projects
thank you
I use tvp pro
and I can select layers and copy/paste between 2 open projects but if it have many layer, it spend many time in teamwork
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haneuri wrote: thank you
I use tvp pro
Do you need to merge to tvp files (or clips as they are called in tvpaint pro)?
open the 2 TVpaint projects you want to merge
Look at this:
merge.JPG
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#1 goto Project tab
#2 I have selected timeline view you could be in another of the 4 views in the project timeline
#3 RMB click the clip you want to copy(if you are opening a tvp file there is probably only one clip)
#4 Copy (ctrl-c)
#5 Goto the other Project and into project tab and timeline so you can see what you are doing
#6 Paste (Ctrl-v)
#7 merge clips with the merge clip button
haneuri wrote: and I can select layers and copy/paste between 2 open projects but if it have many layer, it spend many time in teamwork
you can select all layers with this menu
selall1.JPG
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You can also assign select all layers to shortcut
selall2.JPG
THis way you can Copy open project from one project to another with 3 keystrokes
I think that is fast enogh or?

-Mads
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madsjuul wrote:
haneuri wrote:
#1 goto Project tab
#2 I have selected timeline view you could be in another of the 4 views in the project timeline
#3 RMB click the clip you want to copy(if you are opening a tvp file there is probably only one clip)
#4 Copy (ctrl-c)
#5 Goto the other Project and into project tab and timeline so you can see what you are doing
#6 Paste (Ctrl-v)
#7 merge clips with the merge clip button
haneuri wrote: and I can select layers and copy/paste between 2 open projects but if it have many layer, it spend many time in teamwork
you can select all layers with this menu
selall1.JPG
You can also assign select all layers to shortcut
selall2.JPG
THis way you can Copy open project from one project to another with 3 keystrokes
I think that is fast enogh or?

-Mads

oh.... wow ...really thanks
why I don't think about 'select all layer' :cry:
and it can paste clip in tvp 10! :D
I'm going to delete this item
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Glad I can help :-)

And again. If you have a question about TVPaint ot something that you think could be improved I think it is a good idea to make one post with this specific question, then we can discuss it in the forum. Maybe a solution on the problem will come. or maybe we will find out it is a good feature request. But making one post with a long list of request is a little hard to work with for us other users.
kind regards
Mads
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And it would be nice of you to drop the "things TVPaint MUST reform attitude. A simple suggestion might work better.
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Paul Fierlinger wrote:And it would be nice of you to drop the "things TVPaint MUST reform attitude. A simple suggestion might work better.
ok I will
thanks
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