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'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 10:00
by Sewie
I'm trying to assign a keyboard shortcut for making a new anim layer but it seems to be impossible to do this in the keyboard shortcut panel. It only gives the option "Layer: New" but that creates an image layer... Is there something I'm missing or is it just not possible to do this via the keyboard shortcut panel?

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 10:14
by Paul Fierlinger
What's an anim layer? :) :oops: Must be something very, very old.

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 10:50
by Sewie
??
Are you serious. Paul...?

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 10:54
by Paul Fierlinger
I am serious. The anim layer went out many versions ago and you are the first person I know of who has even noticed. With instance layers there is no need for the old anim layer -- or you can easily turn an image layer into an anim layer in several ways I am sure you are familiar with.

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 11:01
by Sewie
But what's this then?:

Image

I know you can turn an image layer into an anim layer but I was looking for a faster way to create an anim layer with one shortcut key. It seems strange to me that it wouldn't be possible...

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 11:11
by Paul Fierlinger
I guess it depends on what you call an anim layer. A layer that starts with one empty frame, or a layer that starts with an empty frame but when stretched out becomes many empty frames? If you set the popup to "Add Empty images" you have an old anim layer.

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 11:26
by Sewie
If you set the popup to "Add Empty images" you have an old anim layer.
So where do I find that? I don't see it in the pop up menu...

What I am looking for is a new layer that I can stretch if I want to and add instances to if want to. I've always thought that that's an anim layer...
I see now that in the manual it's called an 'animation layer' so I assumed that, abbreviated, it would be called an 'anim layer' as in the pop up menu...

But I suppose not. Very confusing.

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 11:46
by Paul Fierlinger
I agree, it is confusing. I was talking about the popup that appears when you strtch the layer out by its white handle on the right end.

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 11:49
by Elodie
Anim layer : a layer to animate, add instances etc...
Xsheet layer : a layer for the xsheet tab
Image layer : a simple image that cannot be animated

I also agree, the Image layer could be withdrawn and the Xsheet layer could be only seen in the Xsheet tab.

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 11:54
by slowtiger
Hm, it's missing in the keystroke configuration menu. I think it should be there. My habit is to nearly always create anim layers even for still images. Since the introduction of exposures the special ability of image layers, to stretch one image over time without creating multiple frames, is lost anyway, so maybe we should get rid of the concept of image layer?

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 12:01
by Elodie
slowtiger wrote: so maybe we should get rid of the concept of image layer?
I personally agree with this.
Well, you can ask for its removing in the "Remove features" topic :D (in order to see if people finally use it or not)

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 12:20
by Sewie
Paul Fierlinger wrote:I agree, it is confusing. I was talking about the popup that appears when you strtch the layer out by its white handle on the right end.
Oh, I see. I was trying to avoid that window.

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 15:11
by ZigOtto
hi Sewie,
to answer to your first question (in the title) :
in the configure shortkeys panel, create a combined shortkey :
Layer: New + Layer: Make Anim, ... then OK, Save, that's all.

note: to add a second command (and more if needed),
- select the shortkey left-side,
- select the command to add in the right-side list,
- then press and hold the Ctrl key and click "Assign".
8)

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 18:15
by slowtiger
Combined shortkeys?? Why didn't you tell before? *gg*

Re: 'new anim layer' shortcut??

Posted: 16 Apr 2010, 19:08
by Peter Wassink
Elodie wrote:
slowtiger wrote: so maybe we should get rid of the concept of image layer?
I personally agree with this.
Well, you can ask for its removing in the "Remove features" topic :D (in order to see if people finally use it or not)
please leave the image layer in!