Gap Closer?

[Mads Juul]

I have been Coloring some animation with the Flood fill. And I was thinking if it was possible to make the gap closer more 'intelligent '
look at these three fills

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A and B is filled with gap closer 1 But look at the little rest of white in the tip of the shape.
C is made with gap closer 0. and there is no white.
I was thinking if there was some way to make the gap closing only work if there is no closing after lets say a radius of 10 oixels. I mean i would like to have a gap closing feature that only closes gaps and Not do like In the B exable because its actually not a gap. so the result would be A and C of gap closing instead of A and B
Is the possible?

-Mads

[Peter Wassink]

... make the gap closer more 'intelligent '...
I was thinking if there was some way to make the gap closing only work if there is no closing after lets say a radius of 10 oixels. ...

clever notion mads, that would be cool.
curious if it is possible.

[ZigOtto]

to go on in the same idea, I can imagine a Max Gap notion, featuring something like a "Gap Inspector" :
the user set the Max Gap value to 5 f.i., that would mean every "shape" with gap over 5 pixels will be considered
as an "open" shape, and will not be closed,
every "shape" with gap from 0 (none) to 5 pixels will be closed "smartly" :
"gap inspector" would detect each gap, and in regard of its opening size, would (virtually) close it as tightly as possible,
(gap-closer value = gap opening detected, f.i. for a gap of 2 pixels, the gap-closer value would fit and auto-set to 2, and so on),
then, the Bucket or Magic-Wand (paint or selection) tool would fill this (virtually) closed shape,
regarding its Smooth and Expand setting values, of course.

easier to describe than to code I guess ... but as says the old tag : "impossible is not Lorrain" !

[toonybrain]

I, too, get frustrated with TVPaint fill tools. I often wish TVPaint had fill tools as good as DigiCel FlipBook's. In FlipBook, if you want to erase the flood fill you can - without erasing the outlines. Their floodfill works beautifully and easily and thoroughly without any fiddling around. It's clean and efficient and forgiving of changes.

Does anyone else out there have FlipBook? Their fill spoils you for anything else. Spotless.

[Byron]

if you want to erase the flood fill you can - without erasing the outlines

Just put your flood fill on a different layer - you can change the source layer that the flood fill uses for it's outline. Then click to fill and right click to remove the fill.
I used to love Flipbook too, till I discovered TVPaint!

[Peter Wassink]

Just put your flood fill on a different layer - you can change the source layer that the flood fill uses for it's outline. Then click to fill and right click to remove the fill.
I used to love Flipbook too, till I discovered TVPaint!

i agree!
colouring with the lines on another layer is very powerful. for one...you can no longer accidentally overfill by clicking the button twice, because the area you are filling is not altered by the fill... so it simply redoes the fill.
this feels very safe, you can not mess things up when colouring.
same goes for erasing, you can safely erase-click without worrying that lines or other coloured parts will be accidentally affected

[Paul Fierlinger]

... and you can fill different colors on their own layers using a single drawing layer. This comes handy when you need to isolate just one color to tweak its transparency.

[Gochris1]

Thanks for reminding me you could do fills on a separate layer. I finally looked up how to do this, and found it on pages 6-24 and 6-25 in TVP 8.5's manual.

I tried it...

Wow! What a difference. It works great, and will save a lot of time.

Thanks!

Gochris

(I'd better read over the manual again!)

[Elodie]

(I'd better read over the manual again!)

Did you read that Fabrice, your manual is not useless !! One people read it, yeepee !

[toonybrain]

To quote Gochris1: "Thanks for reminding me you could do fills on a separate layer." Dittos to that. Thanks everyone. Don't get me wrong, TVPaint is the BEST. I'm currently illustrating a children's book using TVPaint and my Cintiq. It's the first time I've gone completely digital. I don't know what I would do without them both; I was tempted to give them a hat tip in my Acknowlegements. I'll let you know when the book is being released (probably around Christmas), so you can see the TVPaint illustrations. Cheers!

[Elodie]

I hope we will see your illustrations soon =3