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Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 17:30
by Byron
Hi - I've very recently started looking seriously at using TVPaint - and I have to say, I'm finding it an amazing piece of software. It seems that you have thought of everything. Each time I think: "It would be nice if you could do that" - after a bit of investigation I find that you can!

However, I have found one small thing that I'd like to ask about. I'm wary of asking having read this thread... but I'll go ahead and ask anyway.

Thing is, in all my other graphics apps, I have the second button on my Wacom pen set to pan. I've kind of got used to it like that, drawing, erasing and panning with one hand. I even have it set to scroll in the default Wacom setup - and I use it when I'm browsing or reading documents. It's become second nature for me as a way of navigating. Unfortunately (for me) the combination of pen button and Alt in TVPaint is hard wired to Zoom - so that if I try to map my second pen button to Alt, in order to use it for panning, I get Zoom instead. Really, I was just wondering if there may be a way around this.

As I say though, TVP seems to be THE tool for traditional style animation in the digital domain - I love it, so please don't think I'm picking fault, I'm just curious to know If I could bend it to my peculiar way of working!

:)

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 19:23
by Paul Fierlinger
I don't believe you'll have luck with this one, but there is a work around. Open the navigation panel under Windows at the top bar and place it as a very small panel next to your Project window. Then you can pan the project around by just touching the navigation window with your pen. Or you can touch the little pan icon at the very bottom right corner of the project window.

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 20:03
by Sewie
And with 'Alt' + 'Right Mouse Button click' you can zoom in and out of your canvas. When you press the Alt button and drag your pen (or Alt + left mouse click) you can pan around horizontally and vertically. And if you press the ctrl button as well (so: Alt+Ctrl+Left mouse click) you can rotate your canvas.

It's quite comfortable when you've worked in TVP for a while. But to be honest; if you switch between TVP and other programs it does take some getting used to, I find. I usually get over that in about half an hour or so. To me the advantages of TVP largely outweigh this disadvantage. But hopefully the TVP team will find a solution for this issue (perhaps in a future version of TVP) since many new users seem to be struggling with it.

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 22 Feb 2010, 20:18
by Sewie
Oh, and Ken's advice in that thread is a pretty great patch!

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 07:33
by Elodie
Hi Byron !

I'm really delighted to see such an enthusiasm about TVP animation :D

About panning, you can also change the default settings of the tablet and zoom in / zoom out respectively with > and <
I love it, so please don't think I'm picking fault, I'm just curious to know If I could bend it to my peculiar way of working!
Don't worry ! We love to answer questions, so don't hesitate to ask everything you need about TVP. =)

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 16:04
by Byron
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I did try AutoHotKey with KenC's script - and it worked - briefly - then it didn't, then my pressure sensitivity disappeared, so I think I'll put that on hold until I'm a bit more familiar with TVP, troubleshooting is always easier if you can reduce the unknowns!

For now, I'll just have to accept my Wacom pen button won't do Pan in TVP. Which is sad, but not too serious. Thanks again for the help.

:)

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 25 Feb 2010, 10:18
by Byron
Just a quick note to say I now have this working - thanks to advice from Elodie and malcooning here.

The first thing to try is updating your Wacom driver with the latest version, then - if that still doesn't work - try turning off Sub Pixel mode in Edit > Preferences.

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 09:11
by chatbraque
Hy there !
Could you please tell me what's for "sub pixel" in the french version ?
thank's a lot !

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 09:32
by Paul Fierlinger
Well, I don't know the French word but I can tell you where to look:
Main Menu>Edit>Preferences>third item from bottom: Tablet: SubPixel.

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 10:57
by chatbraque
Thanks paul… your help is much appreciated…
it's called "open Gl" in French version…
(sounds as "french" as "parking" to me :D :D )

I formarly read that it was something one's had to desctivate :(
… serves me right, because I don't know how to handdle it

… Then, I'm leaving this "apendice" unchecked, and keep on learning this amazing software…

have a nice sunday !

Bruno

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 11:09
by Paul Fierlinger
chatbraque wrote:
… Then, I'm leaving this "apendice" unchecked, and keep on learning this amazing software…
Start by drawing a few wavy lines with subpixel unchecked -- notice how you can't control the roundness of the curves...
Now check subpixel back on, notice how round lines are nicely round, so keep the subpixel checked.
It's there only for those who use Microsoft's tablet PCs to correct a deficiency in its OS.

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 11:45
by Hervé
chatbraque wrote:it's called "open Gl" in French version…
Open GL is an option on MacOSX only. this setting activates OpenGL acceleration ( using the graphic card to accelerate some display functions ) .
SubPixel setting doesn't exist on Mac because this function is active and has no compatibility problem with the tablet.

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 13:12
by Byron
Yes - I should update this to say I have now re-enabled Sub-Pixel Mode. Sorry - I should have tested more before I posted.

At first, I didn't see the difference, but I quickly came to see that there actually was a huge difference. Sub-Pixel mode acts as a sort of antialiasing, smoothing out the sharp pixel corners in your bitmaps. Just make a drawing with Sub-Pixel disabled and then make a similar drawing with Sub-Pixel enabled, and the difference will be quite apparent.

I've now taken Paul Fierlinger's advice and assigned my second side switch to Light Table on/off toggle. It really does seem to smooth out the workflow. This has raised another question, though... Is it possible to assign a shortcut to toggle the Light Table globally rather than on a layer by layer basis? I have looked at the shortcuts page, but haven't found it yet.

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 13:16
by chatbraque
Thanks hervé… that's the explanation… of course !
… by the way, what's exactly the purpose of "Open GL" ?
( it's just a "pen in the harsh " when drawing :D )

… is it usefull for gaining speed when rendering the movie ? (or something ?)

Re: Another Shortcut Question

Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 15:19
by Hervé
chatbraque wrote: … is it usefull for gaining speed when rendering the movie ? (or something ?)
No, or only 1-2% faster