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Yes it's me again ... more newbie questions -

I am hoping there are some folks out there working with Premiere Pro CS3 who might be able to help me with this.
I have meticulously matched all file/project criteria between TVPaint's .avi export and Premiere's project settings - but the .avi files import all wanky in Premiere.

The avi's produced by Export from TVP work fine on their own in other players.

The original TVP project is the DTV 720 preset (could that be it?)

This is happening regardless of what output settings I use - 720x1080, 640x480, 720x480 ...etc.

All advice is welcome!

What do you mean by wanky?

-the AVI files is not importing in Premiere at all.
or its imported but looks strange
or the playback in Premiere is chunky
or??



-mads

The avi files are importing but look very odd. One of them had pink stripes across it, another went all diagonal with lines, colors change from red to blue...ect. They are just wanky! LOL
This is the first time I've ever encountered an avi importing issue with Premiere Pro.

I'm hoping to find someone who uses Premiere Pro and TVP to share with me what settings they use in TVP and Premiere so I can see if their settings might work for me. Otherwise I'm just stumbling around in the dark, guessing.

Can you please give a screenshot of your Premiere Project Settings - tab.

So far only guessing:
Pixel Ratio Setting same as TVP-Export ?
Field-Settings (put to Progressive) same as TVP Export ?

Thats interesting I have had the same problem with Adobe After Effects
I think its something to do with the Codec of the AVI You are exporting from TVPAint
Im using the x264 codec I just imported it into Premiere and it look ok but the colors ere off but im onle using black and white so its not a problem for me

divX or the Xvid codec looked better.
I dont know if you have these codecs installed?

which codec are you using
-mads

I recommend any lossless codecs, such as Uncompressed (BGR24) or QT Animation. When you say that you don't want to search in the dark, sometimes with codecs this is just what is needed and is the most efficient way of solving a problem. Trial and error take less time than waiting for Godot.

I use Divx a lot, because of the smooth playback (even for 1080 material), but Divx can do strange things like doubling the first frame of a clip, so for serious editing in Premiere it might be a risk.
The animation codec from Quicktime is very good, but it's hard to play clips in highest quality (try medium quality for play-back, especially in 1920 x 1080 mode).

I'm editing High definition material right now, and the captured material was mpeg-layer2. That seems a very good compressor.
But does anyone know how to export to mpeg2 from Premiere? I can only see mpeg4 in the menu.

Paul, I downloaded a cracked version of Vegas and I tried it out, but although it's a very good program I noticed that I had to find out a lot of things again (like frame rate, aspect ratio's etc.) that I'm already familiar with in Premiere, so I went back to premiere c.s.2 which works smooth for me.

Premier and Vegas are neck and neck in the ratings (can't get rid of election jargon) as one follows the respective forums, but those are live action folk who overuse cheesy video effects and discuss cameras along with NLE GUI and on and on. When it comes to us, all we need are the most basic functions of any NLE so those NLE wars have little to do with what we do ... if you're used to Premiere, I'd say you aren't going to miss anything that Vegas is so highly rated for -- except perhaps in the codecs options.

I don't have Premiere, but see if this helps: In Vegas Main Concept MPEG-2 is listed also as mpg, m2v, m2t, mpa. Do you see any of those in there? How about H,264? I think that codec has supreme colors and playback rates and what I hear, Premiere makes top H.264 quality clips.

if you're used to Premiere, I'd say you aren't going to miss anything that Vegas is so highly rated for -- except perhaps in the codecs options.

That might be a reason to switch actually.

I don't have Premiere, but see if this helps: In Vegas Main Concept MPEG-2 is listed also as mpg, m2v, m2t, mpa.

No, they're not there.

Premiere makes top H.264 quality clips

That's what they say, but not what I see. There's a huge gamma shift in my H.264.
I have understood that it can have something to do with the fact that I am working on windows, and not on mac, which would be a ridiculous reason of course.

Can you please just explain this for my information...
I don't know all these NLE software.
Why don't you export image sequencies in a lossless 32bit format (TGA, BMP, Tiff) from TVPA and import them in your Editing program ?
Is it possible at all ?
Is it because it is too long in time, or too much Gigabites to transfert on network ?

I made some animations and always have delivered TGA32 image sequencies, via CD.
But it was shorts animations, titles, logos, maps or 3D char to overlay on video, always less than 2 minutes.

Hisko, look at this price:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control ... cementLink

Manuel,

If anyone needs to make a film over one minute in length, I'd say they can't do it sufficiently without NLE software (non-linear editing). Otherwise I agree with your suggestion for exporting out of TVPA an image sequence. I regret that I hadn't done that when I started my film. Image sequence is what you want to end up with when transferring to 35 mm film and image sequences have the huge advantage that you can export/over-write just a few frames if that is all you are changing. Image sequences show up in any NLE looking just like a clip; all the images are represented by a single file.

Paul Fierlinger wrote:Hisko, look at this price:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control ... cementLink

Thanks Paul, but I already found out how to do it in premiere.
It's possible to render mpeg2 in the adobe media encoder in Premiere.
It looks quite good, it's small and plays well in 1080 p, but I still have a color problem.
Maybe it has to do with colorprofiles. I'll have to dive in it and delay the releasedate of my film to 2011.

hisko wrote: Maybe it has to do with colorprofiles. I'll have to dive in it and delay the releasedate of my film to 2011.

By then TVPA will have become a combo animation/NLE application but for color layer instances we will still be resorting to the dhomas plugin .

Sorry, I know I'm in the wrong forum for this question, but maybe someone knows this.
I calibrate my monitor every month with a gretagmacbeth, so I have an ICC profile installed.
Does Premiere automatically use that profile, or do I have to assign it to premiere?
And how about colorprofiles in tvpaint?

Paul Fierlinger wrote:

hisko wrote: Maybe it has to do with colorprofiles. I'll have to dive in it and delay the releasedate of my film to 2011.

but for color layer instances we will still be resorting to the dhomas plugin .

What's the dhomas plugin?