Double Click speed of my pen tablet is so tricky

[Fabrice]

I tried older wacom iutuos drivers, but nothing changes.
I unchecked subpixel and checked wintab and line lock occurred.
OK I will check what will happen if both options are unchecked.

This makes me think that it's not Wacom nor TVPaint related (Wintab is the way that the Wacom tablet uses to communicate with the system and software)
By any chance, do you have a specific software recently installed, that runs as a background task ?

One interesting test would be to know if it happen on an other computer (like on a clean freshly installed Windows), using the same TVPaint and wacom drivers versions + the same Intuos3 tablet.

Btw, I double checked at home with my own Intuos3 tablet, and there was no bug

[Zetariver]

This makes me think that it's not Wacom nor TVPaint related (Wintab is the way that the Wacom tablet uses to communicate with the system and software)
By any chance, do you have a specific software recently installed, that runs as a background task ?

One interesting test would be to know if it happen on an other computer (like on a clean freshly installed Windows), using the same TVPaint and wacom drivers versions + the same Intuos3 tablet.

Btw, I double checked at home with my own Intuos3 tablet, and there was no bug

You have no bug. So it's caused by my PC setting. Thank you for your checking.
I unchecked Wintab and Subpixel option, but line lock occurred.
I want to test it on other computer, but I can't do it right now, but I will when possible.
And you said other software may do something. Yes, I am using Autohotkey.
I assign Space + Alt key combination to left windows key using Autohotkey(I frequently use zoom in and out, and I want to zoom in and out via single key pushing.).
What do you think about it? Are there any people who use Autohotkey and have same trouble like me?

[Fabrice]

Sorry, I don't know the software "Autohotkey".
I will have to try it.

[Zetariver]

Ok Thanx.

[Soom]

1. You said you have 2 tablets. Are they both connected? Sometimes, when 2 pens, or tablets interfere, such behavior can occur. Please check it. Make sure no other Wacom pen is near your tablet.

2. In TVPaint the shortcuts are so well designed, that normally you wouldn't need any additional "hotkeys" software. you can zoom in and out very easy by combining ALT key with the Stylus's right click (the side button on your pen). Try it - it's the perfect way to zoom in and out in one click. That's how all animators that I know, work. On my Intuos and Cintiq I almost never need to use the keyboard at all, cause in TVP it's quite enough. The interface is easily accessed by the pen and Wacom tablet shortkey buttons are enough.

[Zetariver]

sorry for my late reply.

To Soom.
I didn't use 2 tablets at the same time.
And AHK is useful for me because it lets me use lots of key combinations that TVPaint can't, like Windows + A. It means I can use Windows key as another modifier key.

And I may find what causes that line lock glitch.
if I use aliased,jaggy pens,it occurs. If I use antialiased pens, it never occurs.
People who like to use aliased pen are so rare that no one notice this odd line lock?

[Fabrice]

no, we have many people using the aliased tools and no glitch was reported.
I just tried also to make sure, I have no glitch on Linux.

If someone can try on windows, please let us know.

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Did you try on a clean windows installation or an other computer ?

[Svengali]

I ran into something similar using an external Genovation add-on keyboard - programming the keys involves separate commands for key down and key up. In one case I only had a key down command and TVPaint thought I still had the key physically pressed and acted accordingly.

In Zetariver's case, the presence of AutoHotKey seems like it could be the cause of the problem. I don't use AutoHotKey but when I googled "autohotkey shift key down shift key up", I found several interesting discussions about problems and solutions involving "stuck keys".

Here is a link to one thread that offers some AHK scripting solutions in AutoHotKey (see last reply):
AutoHotKey - stuck-down key problem

Sven

[Zetariver]

no, we have many people using the aliased tools and no glitch was reported.
I just tried also to make sure, I have no glitch on Linux.

If someone can try on windows, please let us know.

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Did you try on a clean windows installation or an other computer ?

OK. It may be caused by my hardware setting or something.
I still can't try TVPaint on another computer. Sorry. I have to keep drawing for 2 to 3 hours till the glitch occurs.

I ran into something similar using an external Genovation add-on keyboard - programming the keys involves separate commands for key down and key up. In one case I only had a key down command and TVPaint thought I still had the key physically pressed and acted accordingly.

In Zetariver's case, the presence of AutoHotKey seems like it could be the cause of the problem. I don't use AutoHotKey but when I googled "autohotkey shift key down shift key up", I found several interesting discussions about problems and solutions involving "stuck keys".

Here is a link to one thread that offers some AHK scripting solutions in AutoHotKey (see last reply):
AutoHotKey - stuck-down key problem

Sven

Thank you for your info. AHK may cause it then. I will check what it does.

[Fabrice]

I have to keep drawing for 2 to 3 hours till the glitch occurs.

This is interesting to know and helpful. Thanks.

[Zetariver]

I have to keep drawing for 2 to 3 hours till the glitch occurs.

This is interesting to know and helpful. Thanks.

Sorry. It's not precise. I should have said,
"I don't know when it happens, so I need to draw at least for several hours to see it happen."

[Fabrice]

I have to keep drawing for 2 to 3 hours till the glitch occurs.

This is interesting to know and helpful. Thanks.

Sorry. It's not precise. I should have said,
"I don't know when it happens, so I need to draw at least for several hours to see it happen."

No problem, I really meant and wanted to say it was helpful to identify the problem.
This is because we are trying to catch a similar lag problem with an other user.

When the lag happen, do you also have lags when moving from instance to instance in the timeline ?

[Zetariver]

When the lag happen, do you also have lags when moving from instance to instance in the timeline ?

There is no lags in timeline, but I noticed a side effect. When this line lock occurs, zoom in and out shortcut also works strange. I always use "space + alt" key shortcut to zoom in and out canvas, and if this line lock occurs,"space+alt"+Left click shortcut does not work correctly.Say, it failed 3 times out of 10.I push space+alt and click canvas, but nothing happens.

And I also think this line lock occurs when my current tool is aliased pen tool and I use "space+alt" shortcut to zoom in and out canvas swiftly, but not 100% sure. I tried to reproduce the glitch trying what will cause the glitch(current tool is aliased pen and zoom in and out swiftly ), but I failed, so there must be another trigger, but I can't find it. I draw unconsciously, so it's hard to remember what I did with keyboard typing and pen tablet handling when it occurred.

[Fabrice]

Thanks for the accurate description, we will check all this.
If ever you notice an other strange behavior when the bug occur, let us know.

[Zetariver]

OK. Thank you.