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Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:17
by Sewie
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I always use the "alt" button combined with the right click button on my Wacom pen. This does not seem to work anymore in the new update... Is that a bug ??

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:21
by Elodie
smoothing : right click on the main panel :
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off peg : in the light table
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I don't understand what do you mean by "trim"...

@Sewie : are you on PC => Subpixel mode ?

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:23
by Sewie
@Sewie : are you on PC => Subpixel mode ?
Yes it is in Subpixel mode.
This button stopped working right after I installed the update! Before that, everything was fine and I was a happy animator. Now I am annoyed....

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:25
by isd
I have tested the off pegs flipping feature and I can say it is better now than the normal flipping feature (default key:w) but there is still a little glitch:
When you keep the key pressed you have a glitch when the cursor comes back to the first frame (you can see for a very little time the cursor going back and some images are displayed an instant).
This is a bit annoying. But more annoying is the normal flipping feature (with "w"): If you want to flip between 3 frames you have to set your preview settings to 0.15sec, and the last frame is always displayed as a glitch. If you want to flip between 5 frames you set to 0.25sec but here again you have the last frame displayed as a glitch.

first of all, eliminating the glitches bugs should be a priority butI would like to make this proposition for a future feature :
Since the flipping light table is now a nice feature easier to use and tweak then the normal flipping feature would it be possible to flip it in 2 ways.
-Flipping with the out of pegs
-flipping without the out of pegs.

When animating we could then flip easily with the same amout of frames out-of-pegs and in-pegs for quickly checking the general movement and the inbetween details. Here we could have a functionality impossible on paper (until now paper was still easier to use for precise work).

I guess this "feature" can be simulated right now by using a shortcut for flipping the light table and using the hand-flipping-icon for flipping normally (It would be nice to have the 2 features accessible as an icon as well as a shortcut key ^^ )

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:28
by isd
The auto-trim feature is explained here in the second part of the movie.
(Personally I don't really care about the smooth feature but I am very eager to test the auto-trim thing ^^ )

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Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:30
by Fabrice
ok, we will check the possible glitch ( :?: )

What about the smooth lines option ?

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:40
by isd
isd wrote:The auto-trim feature is explained here in the second part of the movie.
(Personally I don't really care about the smooth feature but I am very eager to test the auto-trim thing ^^ )

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=3966&p=32679&hilit=smooth#p32678" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The auto-trim feature is explained in the movie above from 8:25

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:42
by Sewie
Sewie wrote:Image

I always use the "alt" button combined with the right click button on my Wacom pen. This does not seem to work anymore in the new update... Is that a bug ??
I've uninstalled the update and gone back to version 11.
This bug is a total mindfuck.

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:52
by isd
Sewie wrote:
Sewie wrote:Image

I always use the "alt" button combined with the right click button on my Wacom pen. This does not seem to work anymore in the new update... Is that a bug ??
I've uninstalled the update and gone back to version 11.
This bug is a total mindfuck.
I confirm this bug.
But I think options shouldn't be available with a right click. A lot of people have only one button on their pen (for example me on my tablet PC) and so can't access these features easily. Moreover, these features can't be found at all by the common user because there is nothing that says they are there (>_<)

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 14:52
by Elodie
Instead of "Right click", assimilate your click to "space". You will see, it works exactly like a right click :D (and you won't see the difference)

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 15:06
by Sewie
This is what I did and it does not work!

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Being able to moving around the interface and drawing area in an intuitive manner is a very important thing when working professionally. It is very annoying if that gets changed all of a sudden. With one stroke it renders the application almost unworkable!

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 15:16
by Svengali
FWIW, in the new release, the tv_GetMouse command still returns a WRONG VALUE for Y (it appears to have been divided by 65536) as reported here a week ago.


Here's a temporary fix which should continue to work even if a future update corrects the bug...

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IF Y < .1
	Y = Y * 65536					// fixes bogus value for Y returned by tv_GetMouse command
END

Sven

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 15:22
by Sewie
How do I apply this, Sven ? I'm a complete George script Noob...

:oops:

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 15:38
by Hervé
Sewie, if you assign the space key to the upper side switch, the behavior should be the same of the 9.5.11 version ( and the same as the lower side switch ).

There is a problem with the drawing smoothing when the real time value and dry are not set, in this case erasing with right click doesn't work.

Re: TVPaint Updates

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 15:39
by Animark
Yepeeh, An update!
:lol:
I think the smooth function works good. It's a little bit like drawing in flash - maybe better.

And thanks a lot for fixing that ugly keyframer/multi plane camera bug we discussed here:. I was a little bit afraid to get disappointed before testing it out, because it was not mentioned in Elodies post, but now I am very happy.
:D

(Sorry for disturbing this "right klick" discussion ...)

Edit: Is there an auto trim function like in the video? I don't find it ...