Things that tvpaint should be reformed(*add image)

[Mads Juul]

no dont delete it. maybe others will find help

[haneuri]

Glad I can help

And again. If you have a question about TVPaint ot something that you think could be improved I think it is a good idea to make one post with this specific question, then we can discuss it in the forum. Maybe a solution on the problem will come. or maybe we will find out it is a good feature request. But making one post with a long list of request is a little hard to work with for us other users.
kind regards
Mads

what is nice. do I delete this post and post new specific question "now''? or don't delete it and I post other question next time

That I delete this post is little sad

and I can't delete post

how I delete post?

[haneuri]

no dont delete it. maybe others will find help

ok

[Elodie]

Wow, that's a huge post O_o
Anyway, thank you for taking the time to post all your questions. I'll do my best to answer them

1.please make easer button or allow 'your brushes' to bind sortcut key

It's already the case, but to do so, you have to give a name to your brush. (Right click on your brush > Edit > write a name > OK)
Once the brush is named, you can define a hotkey in Edit menu > Preferences > Configure keyboard

Eventually, we could maybe automatically give a name to a custom brush just grabbed, that would make that step easier.
(But I don't know if it's possible, only developpers could answer).

I use what change airbrush to easer unavoidably

If I want to use airbrush, I will change it again

It is really uncomfortable I think many people agree this point

I don't think so, because most users save a custom brush to erase and another one to draw. They assign a hotkey on both and switch quickly between both brushes.

TVPaint is not an intrusive software. If you change the drawing mode from "color" to "erase", yes, you would like a bigger eraser when you simply draw. But what if you are painting and just want to erase a little part of your painting ?

You see, the eraser may behave completely differently, following the way you want to use it. So, we can't "force" the erase mode to increase the brush's size.

please set function use frequently to shortcut key (based on adobe product as possible)

[function use frequently:brushs in main panel,instantce and exposure add/delete, etc...)]

That's not really a good idea, because TVPaint Animation and Adobe products does not have the same tools and the same way to work (for example : no drawing modes in Photoshop, just 1 brush and 1 eraser). Some hotkeys have been changed to correspond to Adobe's one (like [CTRL + T] to use the transform tool or [CTRL + D] to clear a selection ]

Other point : what's about users who are used to TVPaint's hotkeys ?

BTW, thanks the help inline, when you let your cursor above a button, it automatically gives you its name and the hotkey.
Moreover, the user guide and a video tutorial explain how to change them : http://www.tvpaint.com/v2/content/artic ... torial.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

3.please change edit function

...? Oh ! you mean compositing functions ^^
TVPaint is not a compositing software.TVPaint Animations is a drawing and 2D traditional animation software.
The compositing tools were added in the early 2000s' and never changed since, because the current architecure of the software does not allow it.
That's why I always explain in trainings "always save your project without applying your effects, then save it under a different name when you will apply them".

At the moment, it's not the aim of the software to be a concurrent of After Effect. Be sure that when it will be the case, the price of the software will be quite more expensive

I want to select instantce beyond layer

It's a frequently asked feature and on this point, I agree with you

But if it's just for timing, you can already do that :
* select your layers
* stretch the instances

All instances that ends at the same image will be stretched at the same time

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it is a really fundamental function.. why isn't it available already?

Why don't you use the splines ?

7 .I can't copy/cut/paste using the select tool [with [ctrl+C] or [ctrl+x]]

Okay, seems legit.
But, if you don't use the fonction copy / cut to layer / image in the tool panel, why don't you use the cut brush tool when you want to cut or copy ?

In most cases, Selection tools are totally useless (bad Photoshop's habits ) and the Cut brush tool does the job.

9.resize canvas size of the clip 'individually'!

Not possible in the current architecture of TVPaint 10.
You cannot neither draw out of the drawing space. This is the lack of the bitmap : the drawing space defines where the pixels exists.

But why don't you create a project with a camera ? Just define a bigger drawing space and a smaller camera view. You will have a huge drawing space and only the camera view will show the final output.

Since many 2d graphic softwares are developed based on adobe's productions, it allows users to take less time in familiarizing with them.

Just a little note : did you know that TVPaint is as old as Photoshop ? (Photoshop is older of 6 months.) TVPaint was created in 1991 and was inspired a lot by software from the 80s', like Deluxe Paint (1985). We even included layers before Photoshop, you know
It's not in our habits to follow exactly what the others did, we take inspiration and draw our own path. What would be the interest to do exactly like the others ?

2.I hope TVP files can be compatible with .ape format.(affter effect)

I'd like that After effects files can be compatible with .tvpp format

3.the blank instance needs to be white (I don't say about thumbnail of instance)

I don't understand
If your instance is blank, the image is blank too...

trl + mouse wheel: addition of exposure at the desired point

why not

alt + mouse wheel: change of instance location within exposure

I don't understand.

ctrl + Left mouse botton: create instance at the desired point

I don't know if it's possible, but why not.
That would be faster than clicking on the good layer, going to the good image and press [backspace] on the keyborad to break the instance.

5. function that allows users to view enlarged thumbnail of the frame when a cursor is on it. thumbnails are not big enough.

That has been asked recently, a good idea IMO

7. a simple timeline interface similar to flash or toonboom.

Just toggle the layers.

9. coloring function of retas studio, a software which has a very powerful digital coloring feature.

Be patient

10.function that reducing layer opacity except selected layer

Already asked too. If I'm not wrong, it should be a new feature in the big update of TVPaint 10.

my impression on tvp is that it didn't really concern user's convenience.

Not really kind
If we were not concerned by the user's convenience, do you really think we would have such a big forum ?

though I thank you for making an awesome bit-map based animation software.

I wish you tremendous success!

Thank you

EDIT : please, do not create the same topic on different forums ! It's quite useless and redundant.

[Lukas]

1.please make easer button or allow 'your brushes' to bind sortcut key
2.set shortcut key

I started a topic on the shortcut issue here. I agree making shortcuts is too difficult, and there should be default shortcuts for beginners. The default shortcuts should be thought trough carefully so it's not absolutely necessary to edit every single tool to be able to work efficiently.

4. I can't move multiple instantces at the same time

Yes, selecting across multiple layers would definitely be useful.

7 .I can't copy/cut/paste using the select tool

It does work a little bit though... But when you paste, it pastes the entire canvas, also transparent unselected pixels, thereby deleting the previous drawing on the current frame.

10.interface is not user friendly(It is controversial)

I agree, it feels old. It's unnecessary hard to learn for newcomers.

1.I hope I could bind a shortcut key to the flipbook botton of shapen palm. It'll make previewing the work much clearer.

I'd like this too! The button says 'play flipbook', but if you bind a key to 'play flipbook' the function is completely different.

3.the blank instance needs to be white (I don't say about thumbnail of instance)
5. function that allows users to view enlarged thumbnail of the frame when a cursor is on it. thumbnails are not big enough.

Yes! It would be great to be able to see if an instance is 100% clear or not. I agree the thumbnails are too small.

I don't understand
If your instance is blank, the image is blank too...

Something like this!

10.function that reducing layer opacity except selected layer

Yes! Organising what you can and can't see could use some extra tools like this. I was really excited when Groups were introduced, but was disappointed when I first used them. Colour labels are not groups. I'll create a new topic for this though.

[Elodie]

Colour labels are not groups.

Yes they are. They are not folders (they are better than this), but they are groups.

[Lukas]

Well...

A simple example of the power of what groups could be:

If you have a project with 2 characters, both consisting of 2 layers:

- Boy line
- Boy color
- Girl line
- Girl color
- Layout
- Background

I'd want a group for all of the boy's layers:
Group "Boy" has 'Boy line' and 'Boy color' in it. (So I can easily render the boy seperately for compositing purposes etc)

Same for the girl:
Group "Girl" has 'Girl line' and 'Girl color'

Also, you'd want a group for only all necessary layers for animating.
Group "Lines" has 'Boy line', 'Girl line' and 'Layout'

I'd LOVE a button that would only show my line animation and layout. But I'd also want to have all 'Boy' content in a 'Boy' group.

...And folders are a another thing, and would still be great to have next to groups. Everybody loves folders.

[Elodie]

Okay, that makes sense. I don't think such behavior should be possible, but there is indeed something to think about.

[idragosani]

3.please change edit function

...? Oh ! you mean compositing functions ^^
TVPaint is not a compositing software.TVPaint Animations is a drawing and 2D traditional animation software.
The compositing tools were added in the early 2000s' and never changed since, because the current architecure of the software does not allow it.
That's why I always explain in trainings "always save your project without applying your effects, then save it under a different name when you will apply them".

At the moment, it's not the aim of the software to be a concurrent of After Effect. Be sure that when it will be the case, the price of the software will be quite more expensive

I'd like to see more compositing functionality, too, although what TVPaint provides now is pretty good (I especially like the multi-plane camera). I pretty much have to rely on TVPaint for compositing and post-FX as I use Linux only and there is nothing on Linux like After Effects unless I want to spend $2500 for NukeX or Eyeon Fusion.

[haneuri]

Thank for answer

The compositing tools were added in the early 2000s' and never changed since, because the current architecure of the software does not allow it.

oh... no... way... ;_;

That's why I always explain in trainings "always save your project without applying your effects, then save it under a different name when you will apply them".

hmm...so...should I make one project for compositon?

But if it's just for timing, you can already do that :
* select your layers
* stretch the instances

well... It is different what I mean
I don't want to stretch end frame

Why don't you use the splines ?

I said Anchor Point

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it can't locate other point

7 .I can't copy/cut/paste using the select tool [with [ctrl+C] or [ctrl+x]

Okay, seems legit.
But, if you don't use the fonction copy / cut to layer / image in the tool panel, why don't you use the cut brush tool when you want to cut or copy ?

1.it can keep selected area and can move add/delete selected area
2.cut brush is change setting of custom brush

9.resize canvas size of the clip 'individually'!

Not possible in the current architecture of TVPaint 10.

It is mean thay not possible in only tvpaint 10??

But why don't you create a project with a camera ? Just define a bigger drawing space and a smaller camera view. You will have a huge drawing space and only the camera view will show the final output.

therefore I need to resize canvas size of the clip 'individually'

There is time that I want more size canvas size than current canvas size while working

if I used Hu~~~~ge canvas, tvp could lack memory

hmm.. I used this way for a while

2.I hope TVP files can be compatible with .ape format.(affter effect)

I'd like that After effects files can be compatible with .tvpp format

I like it also

3.the blank instance needs to be white (I don't say about thumbnail of instance)

I don't understand
If your instance is blank, the image is blank too...

you are right
my opinions were not well delivered
my intention is that opacity of instance is decrease, not be white

7. a simple timeline interface similar to flash or toonboom.

Just toggle the layers.

I don' lack canvas area
well.. It is not important to me
so... never mind

9. coloring function of retas studio, a software which has a very powerful digital coloring feature.

Be patient

ok

10.function that reducing layer opacity except selected layer

Already asked too. If I'm not wrong, it should be a new feature in the big update of TVPaint 10.

oh I expect it

my impression on tvp is that it didn't really concern user's convenience.

Not really kind
If we were not concerned by the user's convenience, do you really think we would have such a big forum ?

oh....sorry ...

]EDIT : please, do not create the same topic on different forums ! It's quite useless and redundant.

sorry
never do this

[haneuri]

3.the blank instance needs to be white (I don't say about thumbnail of instance)
5. function that allows users to view enlarged thumbnail of the frame when a cursor is on it. thumbnails are not big enough.

Yes! It would be great to be able to see if an instance is 100% clear or not. I agree the thumbnails are too small.

I don't understand
If your instance is blank, the image is blank too...
Something like this!

↑ you are right

[Elodie]

That's why I always explain in trainings "always save your project without applying your effects, then save it under a different name when you will apply them".

hmm...so...should I make one project for compositon?

Yes, I advise you to have 2 tvpaint projects : one without any FX applied (just in the FX stack) and another project, with the FX applied.
So, if you ever need to change the effect, open the 1st file. If everything is okay and you just want to export the final result, open the 2nd file.

I said Anchor Point

Ok
Yes, it doesn't not exist with the Transform tool.

If you do need it, it exists with the custom brush and the keyframer.

2.cut brush is change setting of custom brush

The cut brush tool allows you to select a zone in drawing aread an automatically turn it into a custom brush, right.
But you can just stamp it once, make it turn, etc... Just like you would did with a Selection tool + [CTRL+X]

It is mean thay not possible in only tvpaint 10??

Well... as we don't have any other software than TVPaint Animation 10 (Standard and Professional), errr, yes

if I used Hu~~~~ge canvas, tvp could lack memory

When you need a huge canvas for a camera move, you can then "Render" the camera in a new project (in Project top menu)

]EDIT : please, do not create the same topic on different forums ! It's quite useless and redundant.


sorry
never do this

No problem, don't worry

Thank you again for your intersting feedback.