SAUNA TANGO finished

[toonsisters]

Ha ha, the reason lies in having two babies within 12 month!

I don't know if the world can take it having you forever, Paul !

OK serious now.
I am not proud of taking three years for three minutes animation.
But I am proud of finishing at all.
Heres the background:
I applied for foundation money pregnant with my first baby.
After birth we got green light to start.
We started with four animators each supposed to do 1/4 of the film.
That was when I realized I am pregnant again.
So I had to find other people doing my part.
Then one animator turned out to be extremely talented.
Concerning the continuous Quality of the film I had to either let the best quarter go and keep the three average, or keep the magnificent one and let tree quarters go.
We decided to go with the art, not with the economic and started over again.
But it was only one person left to do the work of three.
After worrying about a never ending project, I decided as soon as my two babies let me to join animation although I was skeptic about me keeping the quality.
It was a great relief to recognize I am not that bad and can make these projects on my own next time!
Vera

[ten_zero]

I can't see how having a baby can prevent someone from drawing more than a minute of animation in a year -- I think the reason lies elsewhere.

All newborn baby's mothers can not become Madame Curie（Marie Curie）, I think.

[ZigOtto]

... That was when I realized I am pregnant again. ...

so, one film and 2 kids !!! jeez... congrats, you are rather very prolific imo !
for the next 3 years , try rather "2 films and one kid", it could be less tiring ( ... or not) !

[Paul Fierlinger]

Well, as I said, the problem must be elsewhere and it turns out to be the case. Vera, I think you pretty much acknowledge that I made a valid point. To organize two mediocre animators and one magnificent one, and a house full of babies, and an Administrator is too much commotion to draw a film.
In your place I would have gotten rid of the animators, hired a nanny for the babies and gone to work on my film by myself just to take a break from the babies.

[NickA]

I bought it a few hours ago. Well worth the 3 Euros. Nice fast download too.
I noted that on your website it says the file is 450MB, but the file I downloaded was only 257MB (not that it matters to me).

Anyway, well done on this animation. It was fun to watch and the background was great. I hope you get lots of purchases.

[toonsisters]

Thank you very much.
I am glad to hear that it works.
I updated the MB file size on my website, thanks for mentioning.

[Elodie]

In your place I would have gotten rid of the animators, hired a nanny for the babies and gone to work on my film by myself just to take a break from the babies.

You will never be in her place, you kind advices cannot be really pertinent in that situation

Well, I moved all posts from Animark's topic because we were not really talking about Animark's work anymore.

[Klaus Hoefs]

I can't agree. It's really not sth about being or feeling male/female. Paul's background of argumentation comes from experience, and far as I know he has kids on his own (now grown up). His constructive suggestions made a good point. Never forget, to be an artist is 80 % about to be disciplined and to organize your time for output.

[Elodie]

Klaus,

I find Paul's first notices concerning Vera and the way how she cares about herself and her babies, very nasty and shocking. I'm not a stupid feminist, but well, you cannot tell a woman who was pregnant twice and who has little little babies "don't care about them and go draw !". You cannot.
In my mind, it was not really a good and practical advise. Well, maybe I didn't understand the nuances of his words. I'm not good enough in English to understand them.

Be an artist doesn't mean to only be an artist. It also means you can be a father, a wife, someone who goes outside sometimes in order to see his/her friends... Not only a drawing machine. But that means some sacrifices. Vera took a little more time to finish her project in order to take care of her children. And for me, it's to her credit. =)

[Fabrice]

Klaus,

I find Paul's first notices concerning Vera and the way how she cares about herself and her babies, very nasty and shocking. I'm not a stupid feminist, but well, you cannot tell a woman who was pregnant twice and who has little little babies "don't care about them and go draw !". You cannot.
In my mind, it was not really a good and practical advise. Well, maybe I didn't understand the nuances of his words. I'm not good enough in English to understand them.

Be an artist doesn't mean to only be an artist. It also means you can be a father, a wife, someone who goes outside sometimes in order to see his/her friends... Not only a drawing machine. But that means some sacrifices. Vera took a little more time to finish her project in order to take care of her children. And for me, it's to her credit. =)

Elodie, please go in the kitchen immediately and prepare us a coffee !

[toonsisters]

Hey Elodie! Thank you for guarding me against the assumed nastiness.
But I think you can calm down now a bit.
I didn't sense it as an attack.
Please, Fabrice would you be so kind and bring her a coffee?

In your place I would have gotten rid of the animators, hired a nanny for the babies and gone to work on my film by myself just to take a break from the babies.

Yes, Paul, again you brought it to the point. That is exactly what I have done six month ago and forced the project to a happy end.
Thats why there are Baby Sitting Credits in my Endtitles!
Looking backwards maybe I have to had started earlier.

Since I want to sell a Product at the moment I am not quite happy about this aspect of my film becoming so important.
Maybe I should not mention any more, that it took me three years.

So why don't you guys outside just buy the film and give me some critics about the content?

I bought it a few hours ago. Well worth the 3 Euros. Nice fast download too.
I noted that on your website it says the file is 450MB, but the file I downloaded was only 257MB (not that it matters to me).
Anyway, well done on this animation. It was fun to watch and the background was great. I hope you get lots of purchases.

This is what I want to hear!
Vera

[Fabrice]

Please, Fabrice would you be so kind and bring her a coffee?

Damn, she will become incredibly nervous !

So why don't you guys outside just buy the film and give me some critics about the content?

ok ok

Well, it seems that last character (with the broom) has its lines a little bit thicker than the previous ones (girl, old man, fat man, ...)

About the smoke, you have to take a look at the particle FX, if you plan to create it into TVP Animation in a new project/short film.
The tutorials from Terrence (ArtFX) are very well done about smoke renderings http://www.studioartfx.com/Training/fil ... magic.html

3 euros are not a big deal to support you, I will purchase the film myself too !!

[Animark]

Yes Vera, I didn't give up to purchase your film - I just need some time to read about how to manage my firewall settings to get a torrent client to run. I will give you some feedback then.

And, when talking about getting babies, after the birth of my first daughter my wife got a job as a writer and needed time and much silence for that. We didn't had a working room that time, so I traveled every day with my daughter from cemetary to graveyard and back, because that were the only places in our neighbourhood, where you find silence and peace and don't have to pay for. Every two or three hours I had to come home to get the baby breastfeeded. I didn't draw much that time but enjoyed a lot this first intensive half year with my daughter. Everytime I came with her to our drugstore, packed in front of my belly, the salesgirl called loud: "Hey, there comes Superdaddy again!" I had some funny situations, cause people act completely different, when they meet a man with a baby, specially when it's wrapped in scarf and bounded on his stomach.

[Elodie]

Hehehe, that's true, I always find "Father hen" (I'm not sure I well translate the French idiom "Papa Poule"... I mean "a Father who cares a lot his child, like a hen does with her chick") really adorable. I'm sure, without knowing it, a lot of girls swoomed over you and your baby in a scarf and thought "I want a man like thiiiiiiis".

[ten_zero]

(I'm not sure I well translate the French idiom "Papa Poule"... I mean "a Father who cares a lot his child, like a hen does with her chick")

In Japanese, "Papa/Mama Poule" mean "親ばか/Oya-Baka", and my old Japanese-English Dictionary for junior high students say "Parents who are totally smitten with their own children."

PapaMama-Poule.png