bucket anti-aliasing option

Please use this part to report bugs & errors, ask questions & "How to..."
Post Reply
arche75
Posts: 25
Joined: 13 Jan 2008, 08:01

bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by arche75 »

The bucket of photoshop has a anti-alias option. but tvpaint is not.
I need a anti-alias option.
Please help me.
I want Somebody make the option plugin or script.
Bye~
Last edited by arche75 on 30 Nov 2009, 23:06, edited 3 times in total.
Elodie
Posts: 13912
Joined: 06 Jan 2009, 09:53
Location: Metz

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by Elodie »

Hello ?

What are you talking about ? There are no "buckets" in TVP animation. I think you're not using the good word.

And by the way, don't say "I want somebody make the option plugin or the script..." but "Please could someone give me an option plugin or script ?" :mrgreen:
User avatar
slowtiger
Posts: 2949
Joined: 08 May 2008, 21:10
Location: berlin, germany
Contact:

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by slowtiger »

I guess he's talking about the "Fill" tool.

There's a "smooth" parameter which gives you control about the anti-aliasing.
TVP 10.0.18 and 11.0 MacPro Quadcore 3GHz 16GB OS 10.6.8 Quicktime 7.6.6
TVP 11.0 and 11.7 MacPro 12core 3GHz 32GB OS 10.11 Quicktime 10.7.3
TVP 11.7 Mac Mini M2pro 32GB OS 13.5
User avatar
ZigOtto
Posts: 4102
Joined: 17 Feb 2006, 22:50
Location: south-Petazonia

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by ZigOtto »

slowtiger wrote:I guess he's talking about the "Fill" tool.

There's a "smooth" parameter which gives you control about the anti-aliasing.
I guess so,
although I have noticed the FloodFill Smooth parameter tend to extend the filled area,
so you could have to balance this growing by tweaking Expand to a negative value (-1).
the other confusing thing (to be fixed imo) is that Smooth = 1 (which should be the AA equivalent)
doesn't smooth anything (see Gif below, Zoom x4), the smoothing effect starts only at Smooth = 2.
FloodFillSmooth.gif
FloodFillSmooth.gif (8.83 KiB) Viewed 23019 times
anyway, with a little care in your settings, you should get exactly what you need.
also, to get rid of AA artifacts with the floodfill tool, don't miss the "Behind" mode,
with a bit of positive Expand (+1 or +2) to overlap the line art.
Elodie
Posts: 13912
Joined: 06 Jan 2009, 09:53
Location: Metz

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by Elodie »

Oooh, not bad Slowtiger ! =)

(in fact, each time I heard "bucket", I think about this :mrgreen: )

thanks for your good explanation Zig :wink:
User avatar
ZigOtto
Posts: 4102
Joined: 17 Feb 2006, 22:50
Location: south-Petazonia

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by ZigOtto »

I'm always amused when someone is coming to beg in urgency for a Plugin,
instead of asking humbly how the other users would do ?
arche75 wrote:I need a anti-alias option.
Please help me.
I want Somebody make the option plugin or script.
that's a strange manner, indeed,
and I think it's the last time I will take on my time to help such an uncivil guy ... :roll:
arche75 wrote:Bye~
:mrgreen:
Elodie
Posts: 13912
Joined: 06 Jan 2009, 09:53
Location: Metz

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by Elodie »

:mrgreen:

He's a Korean, so maybe it doesn't really know English, and that's maybe why he seems impolite ?
arche75
Posts: 25
Joined: 13 Jan 2008, 08:01

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by arche75 »

I'm so sorry. My English is poor.
Thank slowtiger, ZigOtto for your reply
I hope you will forgive me for rude.
The Smooth option of Fill is a little different results what I want. so I asked.
User avatar
Mads Juul
Posts: 3992
Joined: 02 May 2007, 19:18

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by Mads Juul »

I too was confused about the "missing" anti alising of the flood fill tool. and I also have difficulties to recreate it with the smooth options. so why not have a anti alising option on the Floodfill tool?
or what should the option be to precisely recreate the antialising effect with the smooth option?

I have actually used gaussien blur to create antialising on my fills because I don't like the smooth option
-mads
User avatar
slowtiger
Posts: 2949
Joined: 08 May 2008, 21:10
Location: berlin, germany
Contact:

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by slowtiger »

I think you can use the Magic Wand selection tool to tweak the antialiasing to your taste, then fill the selection. PS only combines this in one tool, sharing those parameters with the magic wand.

The reference would be like this:

Code: Select all

                    PS     TVP
AntiAlias On/Off    x      x
Range/Tolerance     x      x
Expand                     x
Smooth                     x
TVP 10.0.18 and 11.0 MacPro Quadcore 3GHz 16GB OS 10.6.8 Quicktime 7.6.6
TVP 11.0 and 11.7 MacPro 12core 3GHz 32GB OS 10.11 Quicktime 10.7.3
TVP 11.7 Mac Mini M2pro 32GB OS 13.5
User avatar
Mads Juul
Posts: 3992
Joined: 02 May 2007, 19:18

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by Mads Juul »

slowtiger wrote:I think you can use the Magic Wand selection tool to tweak the antialiasing to your taste, then fill the selection. PS only combines this in one tool, sharing those parameters with the magic wand.
Thats a way to do It. I used to do it like that in Photoshop but then it could be nice to have a fill selection with a color function.
Is there such a function so I can make multiple magic wand selection and then fill with a color?

I think its a little streange that the magic wand selection has an anti alising option and a smooth option but the flood fill has only the smooth to make tvpaint more consistent I think a anti alising option at the flood fill would be nice
-mads
User avatar
Fabrice
Posts: 10077
Joined: 17 Jul 2007, 15:00
Contact:

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by Fabrice »

I'm so sorry. My English is poor.
Thank slowtiger, ZigOtto for your reply
I hope you will forgive me for rude.
The Smooth option of Fill is a little different results what I want. so I asked.
You are welcome.

We didn't notice immediately you was from Korea. Feel free to ask anything you need. :)
Fabrice Debarge
User avatar
slowtiger
Posts: 2949
Joined: 08 May 2008, 21:10
Location: berlin, germany
Contact:

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by slowtiger »

Is there such a function so I can make multiple magic wand selection and then fill with a color?
That would be nice. in PS I can have a multiple selection and either erase it with delete or fill it with the foreground colour with alt-delete.
TVP 10.0.18 and 11.0 MacPro Quadcore 3GHz 16GB OS 10.6.8 Quicktime 7.6.6
TVP 11.0 and 11.7 MacPro 12core 3GHz 32GB OS 10.11 Quicktime 10.7.3
TVP 11.7 Mac Mini M2pro 32GB OS 13.5
User avatar
ZigOtto
Posts: 4102
Joined: 17 Feb 2006, 22:50
Location: south-Petazonia

Re: bucket anti-aliasing option

Post by ZigOtto »

madsjuul wrote:... or what should the option be to precisely recreate the antialising effect with the smooth option?
not exactly, but roughly AA equivalent is : Expand = -1 and Smooth = 3 .
madsjuul wrote:... Is there such a function so I can make multiple magic wand selection and then fill with a color?
it's the way I often use, multi selections first (with AA), then a shortkey to fill all-in-once !
the only thing still missing to me is the Source options for the Magic Wand selection tool,
(Layer/Front/Back/Display) :wink:
FillSelect.png
FillSelect.png (12.01 KiB) Viewed 22862 times
Post Reply