Broken lines with custombrush ?

[Paul Fierlinger]

I have Wacom Intuos III with driver 610-6
I tested different settings of sensitivity in Wacom and it makes no difference; still works. Be proud.

[Peter Wassink]

It works fine here as well. I like what it does in combination with two colors in the A and B pen with @smear applied. I'm keeping it. Thanks.

How do you do this ?

Michael, you need the latest beta version...
I just tested it and there the problem is indeed solved.
So it turns out the team had already found this bug and solved it, now you just have to wait for the update.

[Sewie]

no, I've tested your custom brush on v9.0.4 and it works fine, like in Paul's test .
I rather think it's a last wacom driver matter, I have a v4.78.6 and a wacom2 ... and no broken lines (see pict.)

I just tried it with driver version 4.93 but that doesn't work at all on Vista x64.

Michael, you need the latest beta version
I just tested it and there the problem is indeed solved.
So it turns out the team had already found this bug and solved it, now you just have to wait for the update.

Will that be the update or the upgrade ?
Thanks a lot for helping out, guys !

[Peter Wassink]

Can that beta version be the reason Paul is getting better results with my brush ? If so; is the paint engine changed and improved in the update/upgrade ?

no, I've tested your custom brush on v9.0.4 and it works fine, like in Paul's test .
I rather think it's a last wacom driver matter, I have a v4.78.6 and a wacom2 ... and no broken lines (see pict.)

hey i missed your post zig.
its strange but i got the same result Michael had (see those images) using version 9.0.6

but now i can no longer replicate it, and the lines are completely smooth. #$@???
So Michael there might be a solution still.... ( although i don't understand whats going on)
what version of TVP do you have?

[Sewie]

Pro 9.0.6
Do you still get smooth lines when applying very light pressure on your wacom ?

[ZigOtto]

Sewie, can you try with brush smooth option to "Medium" instead of "Best", to see if any difference ?
try also the brush in Alpha mode, with colorA = black.

[Peter Wassink]

Will that be the update or the upgrade ?

what exactly is the difference?
... it will probably be the free up grade V9.x

Do you still get smooth lines when applying very light pressure on your wacom ?

yes! that's the weird thing i'm not sure what's going on. You saw in the image i posted that i had the exact same problem but now its gone and at low pressure its completely smooth
and also at 20% opacity the line is perfect evenly grey..?

[Sewie]

Sewie, can you try with brush smooth option to "Medium" instead of "Best"....

I tried it but no difference.

...try also the brush in Alpha mode, with colorA = black.

This alpha...?


..or this one ?

what exactly is the difference?

9.0.7 or 10.0.0

You saw in the image i posted that i had the exact same problem but now its gone and at low pressure its completely smooth and also at 20% opacity the line is perfect evenly grey..?

That is strange... Maybe you triggered a hardware or driver setting when you opened the beta version ?
If you reboot and restart TVP 9.0.6 first, do you get the same smooth results ?

[ZigOtto]

...try also the brush in Alpha mode, with colorA = black.

This alpha...?
..or this one ?

the second one, the brush mode "Alpha Stamp", but you can try the "Alpha diff" as painting mode as well,
though I don't think it will fix your broken line issue. it seems it has something to do with the data transfert from the wacom tablet,
have you try to tweak the sensibility curve of the pen in the wacom utility ?
maybe by setting the lower value to 4 or 5, you can discard the 0>5 levels and stop this eratic behavior of the strokes at very low pressure ...?

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anyway, happy bunny & eggs to everyone !

[Sewie]

...try also the brush in Alpha mode, with colorA = black.

This alpha...?
..or this one ?

the second one, the brush mode "Alpha Stamp", but you can try the "Alpha diff" as painting mode as well,
though I don't think it will fix your broken line issue. it seems it has something to do with the data transfert from the wacom tablet,
have you try to tweak the sensibility curve of the pen in the wacom utility ?
maybe by setting the lower value to 4 or 5, you can discard the 0>5 levels and stop this eratic behavior of the strokes at very low pressure ...?

I tried it all, but it doesn't help. The newer wacom drivers don't have that many settings that can be adjusted, though...

anyway, happy bunny & eggs to everyone !

Thanks ! Same to you.

[Fabrice]

Sewie wrote:Will that be the update or the upgrade ?


Peter wrote : what exactly is the difference?
... it will probably be the free up grade V9.x

indeed, it will be a free bugfix.

in general, but not an absolute rule :
update (most often bugfix, 9.x) > free
upgrade (big new features, from 9 to 10) > not free.

[Sewie]

So, no @smear for us

[Paul Fierlinger]

So, no @smear for us

I guess this makes a good case for why it's not a good idea to leak improvements in progress. I'll just have to be more cautious in the future.

[Sewie]

No problem with me, I'll wait till the next upgrade for that cool feature.
Hope they'll solve that broken line issue a bit faster.

(But yes, shame on you, Paul! )

[Satrip]

Hi Sewie,
I've tried your brush, I've exactly the same issue .
I'm on TVP 8.6.4 , winXP 32 , tried with 3 different wacom drivers (last stable, last rc and last beta), no difference.

If a bugfix is found for this issue, I hope it will be applied to a v.8.6.5 too ! ( please Hervé don't forget us ^^ )