Bought TVP12 at launch, but still use TVP11

[Senneman]

Is there anyone else who is not satisfied either, like me? I mean, I use TVPaint every day and was very excited about the new version. Despite the high price. But if the software stays in this state, and I'm afraid of that, I don't think I'll ever use it.... Such a waste of money. But I just feel so confident and satisfied in version 11. Version 12 is intuitively a huge step backwards, it is a completely different software. Lots of unused blank spaces, unregistered mouse clicks, window management, ... while the version I use relies more on your drawing skills, the newer version is a pain to use that skill.
I feel really bad typing all this, but I've kind of lost my destiny that Tvpaint 12 will ever feel as responsive and perfect as Tvpaint 11.

[Peter Wassink]

At the moment i still prefer using 11 for work.
12 had a problematic launch, the worst crashes have meanwhile been solved,
and the people who still work at TVPaint are very dedicated and i trust them.

But there is no strong reason for me to go to v12, no fundamental improvements (yet) for animators... and that is indeed a small disappointment.

[Dean]

Hello,

if the software stays in this state, and I'm afraid of that, I don't think I'll ever use it

Are you using the latest version 12.0.2? As Peter Wassink posted, the biggest crashes have been fixed starting with v12.0.1, with 12.0.3 being around the corner.

it is a completely different software

This is interesting, how has the basic workflow been affected by the v12 additions for you? In my opinion (though I see how I can be considered as biased), if you keep to using the stuff which was already present in v11, it shouldn't change much, to the point that I didn't really have to modify the "basics" part of my TVPaint workshop program for training sessions, except for the camera part (thank goodness).

Lots of unused blank spaces

We are fixing those empty pixels above the timeline with the 12.0.3 update and making a few other UI adjustments.

unregistered mouse clicks

These sound like some of the day zero bugs which were quickly fixed after the first v12 release, if you are still experiencing this, please create a tech support request with some video examples.

I've kind of lost my destiny that Tvpaint 12 will ever feel as responsive and perfect as Tvpaint 11

Would you be interested in being lent a v11.0 version so you can compare? Please keep in mind that the v11 version you grew fond of had quite a long lifetime to improve. Still, nowadays when using v11 from our side, we only see what could or should have been done better.
Version 12 is the opportunity to improve a lot of things and many more improvements are coming. Also, a lot of the changes we made are under the hood and, while invisible to the users, enable us to vastly improve the speed at which we can fix and release stuff.

[TVPUSER]

I'm in the same boat, I was quite exited about TVP12 but the overall performance impact and layer folder transparency issue has me sticking with V11, The much needed camera layer is great though!
What perplexes me is the 2D bones feature, It feels like something will continually be beaten by other software solutions like Moho and Toonboom, and to be quite frank, I think most people choose TVPaint for traditional animation.
I've said it on another post here before, but I think vector support would equally be on the books for future features if rigging was added, though I recognize its likely a pie in the sky kind of feature since it calls for a lot of low level rewrites to TV paint's foundation.

[Markxu]

Same man, missed the stability of the old ones
Anyway thankfully they semi-fixed the hover click issue, although you still need to touch the screen when performing zoom, the rest of the hover clicks are functioning like the old ones. However the borderless function is being deducted. hopefully we get to see more fixes and improvement in the future.