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Importing Image Sequence - Missing Frames

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TV Paint Standard 11.5.1
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Hi,

I'm trying to import an image sequence that I rendered from Maya as black and white line art in PNG format using a plug-in called Pencil+, which is used in some anime.

When I bring this sequence in to TV Paint, it's missing frames. As a test, I imported 15 frames, and it is missing 03, 04, and 10.
I tried just bringing in the first 3 by renaming them, and only the first two come in.

I converted them to TIFF and I get the same issue. I saved as a duplicate JPG, and it's still the same.

Maya is set to 24 fps, so that's what I set TV Paint to. I also tried 30 fps, but I'm still missing these images.
I can't imagine what is wrong with these particular images. The naming convention is the same throughout, and as mentioned, 12 of the images come in just fine.

Additionally, for just a split second upon importing the files, I can see all of them, but then the aforementioned images disappear.

I've restarted TV Paint as well. The files are 2350 x 1000. I can't think of any other information that might be useful, as 12 of the 15 images import without issue.

Is there an error log somewhere that I can check to see what may be going on?

Any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated!
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I suppose you already checked:
- can you open the missing image files in another app?
And a guess:
- has the missing image identical content as the one before?
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Re: Importing Image Sequence - Missing Frames

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Well well. Thank you, kind sir.

I opened 001 - 005 in Clip Studio Paint, and I can see a very slight difference between 001 and 002, but absolutely no difference between 002, 003, and 004.
The more you know.

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slowtiger wrote: 07 Mar 2022, 12:17 - has the missing image identical content as the one before?
So that was the good guess ;)
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Really? That means that TVP does test images for identical content, something I wasn't aware of. Is that an option anywhere?
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slowtiger wrote: 07 Mar 2022, 15:08 Really? That means that TVP does test images for identical content, something I wasn't aware of. Is that an option anywhere?
Well I noticed that when loading a sequence of identical pictures : TVPaint creates an instance and exposures when 2 or more pictures are the same.

Diving in the code, so far I see no preference or import parameter to rule that behaviour.
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Xavier wrote: 07 Mar 2022, 16:05
slowtiger wrote: 07 Mar 2022, 15:08 Really? That means that TVP does test images for identical content, something I wasn't aware of. Is that an option anywhere?
Well I noticed that when loading a sequence of identical pictures : TVPaint creates an instance and exposures when 2 or more pictures are the same.

Diving in the code, so far I see no preference or import parameter to rule that behaviour.

This is a very useful feature of TVPaint , whether it was intentional or something that "just happened" in the coding at some point. (although I expect it was intentional on the part of Hervé).
Please keep it !

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D.T. Nethery wrote: 07 Mar 2022, 17:33
Xavier wrote: 07 Mar 2022, 16:05
slowtiger wrote: 07 Mar 2022, 15:08 Really? That means that TVP does test images for identical content, something I wasn't aware of. Is that an option anywhere?
Well I noticed that when loading a sequence of identical pictures : TVPaint creates an instance and exposures when 2 or more pictures are the same.

Diving in the code, so far I see no preference or import parameter to rule that behaviour.

This is a very useful feature of TVPaint , whether it was intentional or something that "just happened" in the coding at some point. (although I expect it was intentional on the part of Hervé).
Please keep it !
No worries, it will remain ;)
The picture buffer are explicitely compared and turned into exposures, so I'd say that it was done on purpose !
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I'm glad I could accidentally bring this to light! :)

I opened 003 and drew a small line on it and resaved it. When I brought the sequence back in to TVP, both 003 and 004 showed up. I added a mark to 010, and it showed up, as well.

Now I can stop banging my head against the wall and get to my animation! Thanks again, everyone.
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gabriel.schroll wrote: 07 Mar 2022, 20:45 I'm glad I could accidentally bring this to light! :)

I opened 003 and drew a small line on it and resaved it. When I brought the sequence back in to TVP, both 003 and 004 showed up. I added a mark to 010, and it showed up, as well.

Now I can stop banging my head against the wall and get to my animation! Thanks again, everyone.
You may need to activate the instance auto-break.
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If you haven't read this, you may want to : https://www.tvpaint.com/doc/tvp11/index ... s-instance
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